brooks, mr. murdoch said in his session that -- [inaudible] fairly and squarely the senior management of our paper which i assume would include you, is that the case? >> i think, i think -- i may omit that part of the evidence, but i think mr. murdoch said it's exactly how it was, that it was a collective decision. we all talked together, and mr. murdoch was in with a -- [inaudible] at the time with conference, so we all -- >> [inaudible] >> sorry, rupert murdoch, yes. >> please, go ahead and say something else. >> no. >> just to follow up on that, when you were advising your staff that the paper was closing during the private session, i think you said something about there was more to come. would you like to expand on what you meant by that? >> yes, what i said when i went down to the newsroom to explain the decision, um, clearly and quite rightly the journalists on the "news of the world" who were very honorable journalists who had been putting out a newspaper under this scrutiny for a long tim